So, I'm working on a bucket list of cars I want to drive...

"WilliamsSW" (williamssw) 10/08/2018 at 16:25 • Filed to: Bucket List

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Last winter/spring, I test drove a lot of cars - and since then, it occurred to me that there are a LOT of great cars out there that I have never experienced. So, I’m creating a ‘bucket list’ of cars that I at least want to experience at some point. And now I am looking for Oppo’s help on what is missing from my list.

Basically, it’s a list of cars that seem like they would be fun on some level - and there’s a bit of a purpose to this, because some time in the next year or two, I intend to buy one of these cars to replace my ‘00 3 series convertible. Needless to say, it’s missing cars that I’ve already driven, but I’m sure it’s missing a lot more - what am I missing? What’s YOUR bucket list?

Camaro SS (current gen - hate the visibility, but still want to drive it)

Mustang GT (current gen)

Fiat 124 Abarth (to see how it’s different from the ND)

ND Miata (the 180 HP version - I’ve driven the current one)

Porsche 996 (Turbo? I’ve driven the 997, the 991 is out of my league)

E90 M3

E46 M3

E39 M5

E34 M5

S2000

STi

Recent Corvette

Aston Martin (pref. V12)

And a bunch of not so recent cars:

C2 Corvette

‘60s land yacht (I’ve owned one, but it’s been a long time)

‘60s muscle car (I always owned the ‘base’ models)

Alfa GTV (105/115 — saw/heard one 5 months ago in California and have been lusting ever since)

BMW 2002tii

R32 GTR (obligatory, I suppose?)

Ferrari - any with a gated manual

British sports car - ideally a big Healey

E30 325is - it’s the only 3 series generation I haven’t driven, and many feel it’s the best

So, whaddaya got?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:35

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The Alfa really is a must. Try to drive one thats still got its SPICA in jection in tact. Carbs are not the way that engine in that car was designed, and the SPICA is a marvel. 

djmt1 > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:37

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I’ d say you’re missing some overpowered scaffolding built somewhere in England. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:43

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i want to drive this one

slowly

whilst listening to motown

any chance you could spot me about 20 grand?... im a little short on cash for what he wants

Pickup_man > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:48

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A stock 40's to 50's truck. (particularly a 48-’50 Ford ) Leaf spring straight front axle, 3 or 4 speed non syncro trans, manual drums, flathead V8, no power steering.

Scout/Bronco/K5 Blazer/Ram Charger

Lightning - both gens

Ram SRT10

Being a pickup enthusiast in the midwest really makes my bucket list of trucks to drive pretty easy because there’s really good odds that someone you know will have what you want to drive, and will be willing to let you drive it. I’ve already driven most of my favorite trucks, squarebody Chevys , dentside Fords, 2nd gen Rams, GMT400's, any Ford from basically 1990-present, same for Chevy’s and Dodge’s, Jeep CJ, YJ, JK, JL. Of course there’s plenty more to drive and I want to try them all.

Cars -  ‘69 Chevelle (dad has one in restoration), 2nd gen Firebird/Camaro, Porsche 944 (especially after having owned a 924), ‘69 Charger, British/Italian roadster, C7 Vette (Z06 or better). I’m sure there’s more but that’s what I can come up with quickly.

Motorcycles - All of them.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:48

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also.. dis ones for sale here

just under 30 grand

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:49

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How many are you planning to mark off in the next 6 months?

RPM esq. > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:51

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If there’s a CarMax near you, you can probably bang out 3 or 4 of new-ish ones in an afternoon.

Also, I know I’m biased, but if you haven’t driven one, a full-fat AMG model would be a good addition to this list. Otherwise, of the ones I’ve owned or driven on here, yes, you should drive them. If it were me I’d add an E34 540i with a manual—just to compare it to  the E34 M5 because the character is quite different. And an older 911.

WilliamsSW > djmt1 10/08/2018 at 16:51

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WilliamsSW > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/08/2018 at 16:54

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Good question - not sure really, ideally at least 6-8 or so. This list is really a mixed bag - some cars are really just bucket list items, but much of the list is really about exploring what I want my next ‘fun car’ to be.

There are a bunch of newer cars (mostly at the top of the list) that would be pretty easy to knock off - some of the reason for this post is to motivate myself a bit to make plans and do it.

WilliamsSW > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/08/2018 at 16:55

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Wrong generation - it’s actually this one that I lust after (that one is nice too though!):

WilliamsSW > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 10/08/2018 at 16:56

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That *seems* like it would be one of the harder ones to get access to.  Mostly because I don’t know any Alfa nuts, and they’re not easy to find.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 16:58

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Turbo Caravan with a manual, slightly modded.

V8 swapped 90s Dodge Daytona.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:01

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ooo.. yep thats nice

oddly enough those are mostly cheaper on my market than the 80stastic one... tho not by much

WilliamsSW > RPM esq. 10/08/2018 at 17:02

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Yeah - part of my purpose here is to re-motivate myself. I test drove a LOT of cars back in the winter/early spring, and got a little burned out from dealing with sales people on the drives. So I plan to re-start that soon, possibly at CarMax or at dealers on their slow days (and being clear on what I’m doing - this is ‘shopping’ but not near term for me).

The reason AMG isn’t on the list is because I drove a 2013 E63 sedan while I was shopping - and ended up buying a 2014 E550 sedan. Someday, I’ll add the W213 E63 to this list, but it’s way out of my price range right now.

You’re right about the older 911- I’ve driven the 997 and loved it, and am curious about the 996 because they’re cheaper, and I don’t mind the fried eggs that much.  The 993 won’t go on the list because $$$$, but I really need to add an older air-cooled 911 to the list.  And good point on the older 540i, too - if I can find a manual. 

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 10/08/2018 at 17:03

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ha!  I’d love to check out either of them - and I’m old enough to vividly recall torque steer, which I imagine is one of the primary sensations on that Turbo Caravan!

WilliamsSW > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/08/2018 at 17:04

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That’s pretty!  Closest I’ve driven is a ‘62 Impala - with a 6 cylinder and 2 speed auto.  Slowly is the ONLY way you can drive that car! 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:08

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lol i didnt know you could get a 2 speed auto.. thought they started at 3

anyhoo... thats fine... its the kinda car thats meant for slowly and in comfort :) (so obviously if i get one id take it round the ring)

WilliamsSW > Pickup_man 10/08/2018 at 17:08

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Totally agree on the pickups being accessible. I’ve driven most of them over the years, but not really in the last 10 or so. You should add a 454 Suburban to that list, if you haven’t driven it already. I’m a huge fan of the square body Suburbans, and square bodies in general - they’re nice, comfortable, and are pretty much the ‘ideal’ pickup to me.

And that 40s/50s pickup is something my dad lusts after - though he’s old enough now that he would really need the power assisted accessories.  They’re cool trucks.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:09

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They aren’t as bad as people like to say they are, the stock diff soaks up a lot of it.

Even my built V6 versions don’t have much torque steer.

WilliamsSW > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/08/2018 at 17:11

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The ‘Ring would be perfect! I haven’t seen Rustholes are Weight Reduction lately - he has a small fleet of Chevies, just 1 year newer than that ‘59, and he’s in your neck of the woods somewhere (Germany or Netherlands, I think?)

And yes, there were a LOT of 2-speed automatics put into American cars on the 50's and 60s.  Hell, the Dynaflow that Buick used up until 1963 or so was arguably a ONE-SPEED (it had two gears but did not shift between them if that makes sense).

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 10/08/2018 at 17:13

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That’s pretty good then - some manufacturers did a better job getting rid of torque steer than others.  My ‘90 Sunbird Turbo with a 5-speed was a handful in 1st gear.  

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:16

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hmm... i may have to go stalk rustholes are weight reduction :p

also one speed ahahaaa... ah man... different times :)

Pickup_man > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:21

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454 Suburban absolutely should be on the list, along with the 454SS, not sure how I forgot that one. I’ve only ever driven a 305 powered Squarebody which was slow, but still fun. More power can only be better. I want to try the 6.2 Diesel as well, I’ve driven a 6.5 Non-Turbo so I’m curious what the 6.2 is like.

I actually have a ‘50 Ford F3 that I want to get built, I’m keeping some of the traditional feel to it by keeping the leaf sprung straight axle in the front, but will likely put a syncronised transmission in it, along with a more modern engine, and power assisted discs.

Now that I think on it, I’m not sure that I’ve driven a big block anything, so that has to happen. (Also a V10 Dodge, I’ve driven a V10 Super Duty). 

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:22

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Oooh. There are so many. These are my big ones:

Porsche 930 - The original Turbo. Supposed to be a real handful.

Viper GTS - I seem to have a thing for cars with murderous intent.

Porsche 356a

997 GT3 4.0

C7 Vette

BMW i8

Big AMG V12 something

E63 AMG wagon

AMG 6x6x6

Deuce and a Half

60s Lincoln Continental convertible

Bobcat skid steer

Hovercraft

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:26

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Just giving you a goal to shoot for. ; )

djmt1 > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:31

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Quality Bri tish scaffolding with too much power. Windscreens optional.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 17:38

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I’ve driven a lot of stuff so far but here it goes.

Lamborghini Diablo because it’s my childhood hero car.

Manual Hellcat

Terminator Cobra

Genesis G70 6MT

A stock twin-turbo Stealth

Z32TT

McLaren 720S

NASCAR cup car in road course setup

Euro-spec E36 M3

V10 Audi S8

FD RX-7

Eurocharged Stage 2 ML63/GL63/GLE63/GLS63

And I want another crack in a Quattroporte with the ZF gearbox and an  XJ Supersport

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 18:14

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Just keep your eyes peeled. We’re out there (I am currently Alfa-less, but as I have said before Alfa ownership is like herpes... Rarely fatal, but often embarasing and expensive , and though it may go into remission, you are never truly rid of it...)

WilliamsSW > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 10/08/2018 at 18:32

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A lot of these cars are easy to test drive - I need to keep my radar up for opportunities to check out the more unusual cars.   F or some of them, I have some good leads already, the Alfa is one of those that I don’t, yet.

WilliamsSW > djmt1 10/08/2018 at 18:33

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Ah yes - I thought you might be referring to one of these, or perhaps a Morgan, but I’ve never heard the term before.

I would love to drive a Caterham or Ariel! 

WilliamsSW > Pickup_man 10/08/2018 at 18:36

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The 454SS is a good one.  Nice on the F3-  the nice thing about those is that you can keep it stock, or mod it, it seems to me that pickup lovers don’t get hung up on whether the truck is stock or not (unlike some muscle car aficionados...)

WilliamsSW > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/08/2018 at 18:37

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Thanks! :)

WilliamsSW > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 10/08/2018 at 18:38

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This is a great list - but I gotta ask about one:

Eurocharged Stage 2 ML63/GL63/GLE63/GLS63

Why the SUV and not an E or S Class? 

WilliamsSW > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 10/08/2018 at 18:41

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This is an awesome list - though I mentally thought “wat?” when I read “ deuce and a half” because I read it as “deuce and a quarter”.

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 18:56

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Lol. That would probably be interesting too. 

f86sabre > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 19:15

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You need to drive a classic Mini. They are joy on 4 wheels.

Have you ever driven an RV? That’s an experience as well. 

ihm96 > WilliamsSW 10/08/2018 at 19:26

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For the classics I would add the Jag XK120. So sexy and elegant plus its got that big inline six. As the owner of an E34 530i who has a ton of fun, the E34 M5 would be a great choice. Also, add a Z3 Coupe to your list cause theyre awesome and I dont ever see myself getting rid of mine

WilliamsSW > f86sabre 10/08/2018 at 20:56

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Ooh! Good idea on the original Mini!

One car I forgot in the original post was the Corvair. That belongs too ( for me at least).

WilliamsSW > f86sabre 10/08/2018 at 20:58

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Also, although I haven’t driven an RV, I’ve driven a fair number of trucks as long as 27 feet, and a few semi tractors bobtail.  

WilliamsSW > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 10/09/2018 at 00:17

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Yes, but not much different from the Lincoln.

Deuce and a half would be a riot!

WilliamsSW > ihm96 10/09/2018 at 00:19

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The XK120 and Z3 are great adds.

I really like the Z3 but  haven’t driven one yet.

M.T. Blake > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 04:29

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Viper ACR

Lotus Super 7

Jaguar XKE

Lexus LFA

Mercedes SLR  McLaren

ihm96 > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 04:49

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I’m not him but I drove a renntech gle63s with the full shebang and over 700 ft of torque and it was an insane suv rocket

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 06:52

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I think a lot of it has to do with the diff layout. The C hryslers do a good job of locking the diff, so they usually send equal power both directions.

WilliamsSW > ihm96 10/09/2018 at 10:28

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I’m sure it would be ridiculous - and have to admit that would be fun in an SUV, but personally I’d want it in an E-class (the least boaty option). :)

WilliamsSW > M.T. Blake 10/09/2018 at 10:32

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Ooh, some of these would be hard to chase down (LFA especially), but all worthy!

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 11:00

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Because it snows in Canada :)

ihm96 > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 11:10

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C63 Coupe or SL would be the least boatiest. The new E63s are cool too and I’ve driven them, but its too much speed to have fun on the road. It’s all about the fun factor for me in a street car

WilliamsSW > ihm96 10/09/2018 at 11:12

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Yeah, I keep forgetting that they offer the same engine (albeit detuned a bit) in the C-Class.

My ‘14 E550 has all the power I need (and hell, I could tune it for 100+ more HP for a few grand if I needed to) - it just doesn’t have the suspension tuning that the newer AMG’s have.

ihm96 > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 12:54

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E550s are awesome, especially the coupes. One of the most clean and confident donuts I’ve ever done (not that I’ve done many) was in one that my friend owned. Such a smooth engine, and the paddles are decent enough to have fun with. If you’re ever looking for another benz, I work for a dealer, so if you want give me a shout for any help or questions you might have. That generation E Class will probably end up feeling how I feel about my E34 now in about 20 years. Silently one of the best cars out there for this generation with a timeless design and extremely balanced chassis

WilliamsSW > ihm96 10/09/2018 at 14:01

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Thanks! This is my first Benz- I bought it 4.5 months ago, it’s a CPO car, and so far I love it! My wife does, too - which is awesome, because she was pretty set against buying used at the outset.

It’s also a sedan, so it’s 4Matic, because we have a 2 year old. And yeah, the W212 is quietly a pretty great car - the bugaboos from the W210 era are long gone.

Thanks for the offer - where are you at?  I’m in the SW burbs of Chicago, but flew to Detroit to buy this car.

M.T. Blake > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 18:51

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Aim high my friend!

ihm96 > WilliamsSW 10/09/2018 at 19:33

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I’m out in Philly. Yeah the CPOs are great deals especially if you like to drive a lot cause of that unlimited miles warranty. We just got a 300 mile CPO E43 for sale and the warranty is unlimited miles till 2023 even without buying the two year extension. Thats basically a new car with an insane warranty lol

WilliamsSW > ihm96 10/09/2018 at 23:24

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With Mercedes you’re almost better is buying CPO than new in cases like that. Strange but nice. 

WilliamsSW > M.T. Blake 10/09/2018 at 23:28

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Well said!